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Bast: A velvet paw upon my Ka
Bast (pronounced "Bahst") was the first of the ntjrw to call me. Before I was Kemetic, before I was Pagan or even thinking of seeking a new spiritual path, there was something about that ancient cat-goddess which pulled me near, twined itself around my body, and whispered softly- so secretly- of life and truth.


In my search for a spiritually fulfilling path, I first settled into Wicca and immediately committed myself to Bast as my Matron goddess. It was a more difficult thing finding a Lord to pair with my Lady, but I spent a happy summer with Pan while I mapped out the basics of my beliefs- which eventually led to more and more introductions with the ntjrw (and fewer and fewer visits from other pantheons). At first I actually connected better with Pan than I did with Bast. I was trying to figure Bast into the role of a Moon goddess to balance out my Sun god, which is the most common pattern for Wiccan Lords and Ladies to take. Bast wasn't having any of it- She shunned my calls, my poetry, and my meditations until I despaired of ever being accepted by Her. I knew only the barest basics about Her- goddess of cats and all that that implied: grace, stealth, playfulness, beauty, mystery... occasional cattiness... relentless in stalking Her prey.

One day She sent me a vision of a papyrus painting. It was a marsh scene, and in the lower right corner a red cat prepared to pounce on a long-legged blue bird who was standing in the middle of the left side of the painting. The image lodged prominently in my mind for over a week before I realized that the only way to clear it was to look for this bird and figure out what it meant. Somehow I knew it was an ibis, though I'd never seen one before, and this became my introduction to Djhwty. Upon learning that Djhwty was a lunar god, I decided that the ancient Egyptians might just be perverse enough to pique my interest. Lo and behold, my newfound studies revealed Bast to be a solar goddess! I found this to be indescribably (and inexplicably) amusing. Djhwty quickly replaced Pan and Bast suddenly showed a lot more interest in what I had to say to Her. I wanted to learn more.

I learned that the name of Bast was written with a "bas" jar and a feminine "t" ending. The bas jars held perfumed unguents which the ancient Egyptians used to protect their skin from the desert sun- they served both a cosmetic and practical function. Bast is closely associated with these perfumes and also with the sun- She personifies the warmth and power of the sun to cause things to grow, but She is also the vengeful Eye of Ra and can use Her warmth to scorch and burn much like another ntjrt, Skhmt, Whom She often parallels.

Bast in the form of a domesticated cat became popular during the Greeks' rule of Egypt- prior to that She had the form of a wild cat or lioness. Her development in later periods may have been affected by the development of these animals as they were brought into domestic life. Still, Bast was never declawed (as [info]jadecat9 would say) and She is a fierce protector of Her father Ra and defender of Ma'at, ripping out the hearts of those who have offended divine justice and truth and laying them before the throne. In Her lion aspect She rages with the other Eyes of Ra toward the end of every Kemetic year, wreaking destruction on all that is condemned in the Book of the Last Day of the Year- a tome which lists the names of those who must die during the year, and when the end of the year approaches all that it lists who have not yet been wiped out must be destroyed before the New Year begins. note: While my sources only specifically mention the names of people as being included in this book, I have a feeling that this extends also to organizations, ideas, and relationships, etc, and that is why there is often so much chaos and difficulty just before the New Year arrives. However, many small faience trinkets- little flasks or felines, usually- have been found which are inscribed with the words "May Bast bring (name) happiness in the New Year," and exchanging these gifts at the opening of the year seems to have been popular for a time.

Bast also watches over children and their mothers, and in ancient times Her image was commonly found in birthing chambers. Bast protects Her people with all the tenacity of a mother cat defending her kittens, though that doesn't mean She won't allow Her children to pounce on a porcupine if that's what it takes for them to learn. I have found that calling on Her in this aspect leads to quick, efficient results- however She cuts straight to the heart of the issue, and you'd better be sure you really want Her tearing through before you call on Her.

Bast is commonly portrayed holding a wadj scepter, an ankh, an udjat eye, a sistrum, a reed basket, an aegis (a small shield-like object bearing the face of a divine protector- in this case a lioness), or some combination of these. Portrayal of Bast wearing the solar disk and protective cobra is rare, but She has been shown with these symbols in several amulets. When shown this way, She can be very difficult to distinguish from Skhmt. Each symbol tells us something about Her character:

The wadj scepter- a stylized stalk of papyrus which looks like a staff with an upside-down bell shape on the tip- is a symbol shared by most ntjrwt. It represents youth, joy, fertility, and the abundance which is the gift of the Nile- most potently seen in the lush papyrus swamps that grow along its shores and the living things that thrive within them.

The ankh is commonly held by all the ntjrw. What exactly the ankh-symbol represents is a controversial subject- most believe it to be a sandal strap, but it has also been suggested that it may be an amuletic bow (like the tyt-knot), a ritual tool used to pry open the mouths of mummies in the "Opening of the Mouth" ceremony, a symbol of sexual union, or even the sun casting His light over the horizon. What the ankh means, however, is much more clear- it is a symbol of life.

The udjat eye is shared by fewer deities- Djhwty, Hrw, and those ntjrwt Who bear the title "Eye of Ra" being the only ones that I can recall at the moment. Generally the udjat eye represents wholesomeness and perfection, but in the hands of one of the Eyes of Ra it marks its bearer as an instrument of the vigilance and perfect justice of Ra.

The sistrum is a musical instrument which often accompanies ritual and festivities. It is composed, at its most basic, of a metal hoop with metal rods and disks strung loosely through the hoop. When shaken, the sistrum produces a sound which is reminiscent of papyrus stalks rustling in the wind. Few ntjrw are commonly shown with the sistrum- Hwt-Hrw and Her son Ihy are the ones most commonly associated with it. The sistrum represents life (its shape resembles that of the ankh) and the joy which its music brings to the ntjrw and the people.

The basket is a symbol unique to Bast, though sadly little is known of its intended significance. It has been suggested that She may use this basket to carry Her kittens, as some small representations of baskets have been found with tiny kitten-figures inside. One website which is, unfortunately, now defunct linked the basket with the abundance of the harvest. I can't credit these as anything more than theories, but they both seem to ring true to the nature of Bast in my opinion.

The small shield-like object is even more ambiguous since the scholars of egyptology can't agree on whether it is really a shield or whether it is actually a necklace which is being held before Her body rather than being worn around Her neck. In addition, they can not agree whether the lion head is meant to portray Bast Herself, or Skhmt. If it is a necklace, then it is most likely an wsx- a broadcollar- and even if it was meant as a shield, this amulet certainly does seem to use the device of a protective deity's head with a very broad (though sometimes flat and featureless) collar expanding down and to either side from the neck. This shield-like symbol as a whole has also been found worked into the decoration of the counterpoise for another popular ritual necklace- the menat, used as a sacred rattle. Regardless of what the symbol portrays, it certainly seems to function in a protective capacity when used as a personal amulet or as ritual protection for the sacred barques of the gods- where it is found even before its use as a personal amulet. As an Eye of Ra and defender of Ma'at, I feel that it would not be out of place for Bast to hold this amulet as a shield. As for the lioness portrayed on this symbol, I have no idea except that all of the Eyes of Ra were portrayed as lionesses at one point or another, so it would seem to me to be appropriate if the protective device of an Eye of Ra had a lioness on it. note- please see kat's wonderful pictures and information linked to in her post below!

The sun disk with protective cobra is emblematic of many solar ntjrw, most notably Skhmt, Ra, and Hrw. Bast sometimes wears this headdress in amuletic forms. This shows Her close connections with the other powerful solar ntjrw, and Her own power as both the life-generating force of the sun's rays and the merciless (yet protective) fire of the vengeful Eye of the Sun.

Bast usually goes bare-headed, wearing only a mane or a bit of a ruff behind the ears, but She has been shown with a rearing cobra upon Her brow. This cobra is the ntjrt Wadjt, Who is also placed upon the brow of the king and several other ntjrw such as Ra and Skhmt. Bast tends to favor ankle-length sheath dresses in Her representations- commonly decorated with vertical stripes of patterns or broad lines. In some rare cases, Bast has been portrayed in human form with paws instead of feet and a tail peeking out from under Her dress.

Bast is a daughter of Ra, a wife of Atm (and occasionally Pth, due to many people's association of Her with Skhmt), and mother to the warrior Mai-Hs and Hr-Hknw. Thank you Kat for the reference!

In my personal relationship with Bast, She has emphasised the importance of getting to know my true self- my personal worth and place within creation- and fulfilling that role which only I can play in this world. She is a warm, comforting presence Whom I usually see as a very large cat (about the size and shape of a puma) with fur like golden tiger's eye and emerald-green eyes. Alternately She is a woman with a cat's head Who has soft golden skin and fur, and a radiant glow about Her. Occasionally Bast has appeared in what I call Her "Wild Cat" aspect. In this form She takes on the shape of the very large cat/puma with pure black fur and a decorative vest similar to the ceremonial armor worn by the nisu (king), but made of black metal disks which can not be seen until Her rippling muscles shift them to catch the light. In this form Her eyes are not green, but a pure glowing white which illuminate the object of Her attentions (giving me a very distinct "deer caught in the headlights" feeling when I am the object of Her attention). She appears as other things to other people. Bast is my Mother, plain and simple, and She has shared with me Her warmth and the scent of Her skin when I dearly needed it to keep going in difficult times. When I am hurt, afraid, or lonely, She will stay near one side of me- Anpw frequently on the other- and Her presence is calming, healing, and reassuring. She also shares my joy of candle-light and soft music, and when I get the chance to revel in a quiet evening I can feel Her purr as it fills the room.


Click here for titles, hymns, and sources on Bast



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[info]elynne
2003-08-09 06:46 pm UTC (link)
In my search for - deities (does ntjr apply to other pantheons?), there was much to draw me to Bast. However, occasional tentative contact led me to believe that she was not particularly interested in me. I was given the strong impression that I am "not of her people." I still honor her, but I understand that she is not - personally involved in my life. However, one of my housemates seems to have been accepted by Bast, somewhat independently of my own searchings. I will point her towards this entry - she has been seeking information for quite some time. Thank you very much for writing and sharing this. *bow*

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[info]fyrekat
2003-08-09 07:10 pm UTC (link)
*bow*

I'd say that ntjr applies specifically to the Kemetic pantheon- They're a special kind of deity and They interact and inter-relate in a way that no other pantheon that I have seen has fully matched. There are some similarities to some other pantheons, but I've found a good rule of thumb is to call a country's gods by whatever term that specific country used. You can't go wrong that way.^_^

I hope your housemate finds these posts helpful.

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Marvelous!
[info]firecat
2003-08-09 08:30 pm UTC (link)
Some very interesting stuff that links to various shamanic/magickal experiences I've had. Especially the business about "quick, efficient results" and "getting to know my true self."

May I ask the origin of your LiveJournal name?

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Re: Marvelous!
[info]fyrekat
2003-08-10 11:00 am UTC (link)
In the Kemetic Community my name is Weben Banu, but before I became Kemetic- and still sometimes when in the company of those who might not know what a "Banu" is- I go by the name of Phoenix Fyre. My legal name is Katherine. When I registered this journal I found that you could have a username which was different from what you entered as your name and what appeared at the top of your journal, and I felt it would be redundant to have "Banu" in all three places (when I first started, this journal was simply called "Banu's Journal"). So I chose "Kat" as an abbreviation of my first name and combined it with "Fyre" from my second name, thinking that all journal entries and comments would be posted under my third name "Banu" because that's what I entered as my display name. I didn't really understand how the system worked.^_^* But my two Mothers are both feline ntjrwt with fiery aspects, so the username fits one who lives in Their honor.

While I'm at it, my Kemetic name is a play on words- "Weben Banu" means literally "The Phoenix Rises," "weben" being a verb that describes how the sun rises and shines over the horizon and also being the word from which "banu" is etymologically derived. However, the particle "en" in Middle Egyptian describes motion towards a person, so the name also can be read "Web en Banu"- (very) roughly, "the Web comes to Banu." "Banu" being the handle I most frequently use when surfing the Web these days.^_^

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Re: Marvelous!
[info]lilairen
2003-08-10 02:27 pm UTC (link)
And, of course, wordplay is perfectly Egyptian. ;)

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[info]selenajade
2003-08-10 06:20 am UTC (link)
This is a wonderful post!

Bast was also one of the first Netjer to call me. Indeed I think she has been with me for much longer than I realized. Several years ago I was having a difficult personal crisis and one of the events that kept me calm and rational was a dream I had that featured being surrounded by gentle, loving gray cats.

In her initial manifestation to me she was a protector, and she still functions as such frequently. She is with me and her cat children who share my home. She is mostly gentle, likes her fun, and is warm and soft. She is an excellent companion.
Its hard to describe, but she feels like one of my girlfriends....always there, usually loving, and a most trusted confidante. :)

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[info]lilairen
2003-08-22 09:09 pm UTC (link)
It was interesting to re-read this (since you posted the link to [info]kemet) given that I made a Bast statue yesterday.

Y'see, I had a dream that I'm pretty certain She gave me, which I'd almost entirely forgotten about; [info]oneironaut made a comment about it when I was commenting on a post [info]raingnosis made, and I wound up motivated to make the statue.

She mostly appears to me in the mode of protector of mothers and children; I have no idea if this will shift with longer acquaintance.

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[info]fyrekat
2003-08-24 01:49 pm UTC (link)
Very cool- the ntjrw often contact us through dreams. Dream-incubation (sleeping in a temple in the hope of receiving dream-messages from the ntjr) and dream-interpretation were popular forms of divination and communication with the ntjrw and the spirits over several periods of AE history.

I also usually encounter Bast in one particular mode. She occasionally switches around on me and I think it's because She wants me to remember that She also has other sides, but that didn't start until after I'd been working with that one manifestation of Her for several years. One way of understanding the ntjrw isn't necessarily any better than any other, though. Perhaps I've just come to a point in my life where I need a more varied perception of Her.

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[info]shemem
2003-08-22 10:02 pm UTC (link)
Quite nice. :)

I hadn't seen the information about baskets before, maybe that's why it seemed so important that my shrine be in one!

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[info]fyrekat
2003-08-24 01:33 pm UTC (link)
Hey that's cool!^_^ I hadn't heard about Bast's basket either until Kat, a.k.a. SaBastet, told me about it. I found a website with an image of a Bast statue where She is shown holding the basket: http://www.ucihs.uci.edu/com/pathology/sherman/vet_mdt/cats.htm

Here's a link to the picture itself, in case you have trouble finding it: http://www.ucihs.uci.edu/com/pathology/sherman/vet_mdt/bastet.jpg

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[info]fyrekat
2003-08-24 01:39 pm UTC (link)
The link I gave above mentions App as being the "god of night,"- I want to make clear that this is incorrect, so ignore that part of the website! App was not a ntjr of anything- he was the embodiment of isfet and the enemy of all the ntjrw. Otherwise, however, the person who created that website has collected quite a few pictures of authentic icons for both Skhmt and Bast.

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[info]kefi
2003-10-21 04:32 pm UTC (link)
Hi, Banu! I love hearing what you've learned about Bast. Out of curiousity, do you have anymore information on her son, Maahes, or Ma-Hs? His name, glyphs, meaning, anything at all? If so, I'd love to hear it.

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[info]fyrekat
2003-10-21 09:33 pm UTC (link)
At the moment I am desperately in search of the hieroglyphic spelling of Ma-Hs.^_^ I have found several variations of a maHsA, but am having trouble determining if this is a ntjr or just a regular lion. My usual contacts are remaining silent on this front. [info]merytmaahes pointed out to me that Caroline Seawright has the 'glyphs on her website, and so I am trying to contact her to find out where she found her source.

For information about Ma-Hs, I'd suggest reading Seawright's essay on Him, and talking to [info]merytmaahes about Her more personal experience with Him. As a son of Bast, I certainly have an interest in this ntjr, but I'm not experienced with Him and wouldn't be able to tell you very much. Hopefully that'll change some day!

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[info]fyrekat
2003-10-24 01:52 pm UTC (link)
I remember that essay- it was quite impressive as I recall. You said then that you had Seawright's assistance with some of the research- did you get that assistance via her website or were you able to contact her directly? I seem to be having trouble getting in touch with her.

I'm glad to see you posted your essay on your journal. Anyone who's interested in Ma-Hs ought to go here to read the essay!

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Who let the cat out of the bag…
[info]merytmaahes
2003-12-25 12:24 pm UTC (link)
From my personal familiarity with this author she hardly assist reply to anyone emails. I was of the few lucky ones to have my email replied. I asked her where did she get the pictures of Maahes from. All she told me was from extensive search on the web and to find them myself. How nice I never did find the photos but my luck did not end there. A few months later I met someone who happened to have rare photos of Maahes. Of course I lost them and trying to get her to resend the photos. That’s not all there is a book with more information and pictures of Maahes. It should be arriving soon. Keeping my fingers crossed this is my last attempt to get this book. The first two failed horribly and I had to pay double the price of the book.

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Re: Who let the cat out of the bag…
[info]fyrekat
2003-12-25 07:38 pm UTC (link)
What's the title of the book? Is it the Apedemak, Lion God of Meroe: A Study in Egyptian-Meroitic Syncretism that you mentioned in another comment? I'm always eager to gather resources on specific ntjrw- it's not easy to find them.

Seawright did eventually respond to my email- it took a long while, but I can understand that. Sometimes it takes me a very long time to get back to people, too. Basically she said that the spelling she uses comes from a foreign language page- possibly one in Spanish- that she finds reliable for the 'glyphs. She also told me to check around images of the ntjr in AE art to see if I can find what may be His name. Great advice, but I wish I had pictures of the ntjrw surrounded by writing that I could search.-_- She also said that she always checks her grammar, just in case she can find the root-words which form the ntjr's name.

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Great
[info]merytmaahes
2003-12-27 02:40 pm UTC (link)
She did contact you wonderful. Yes that is the book I mentioned. Amazon has list booksellers of this book but they are used. Mine is in fine condition in other words not used not new but a good book none the less. I should wait to I actually get the book and then judge it as fine condition.

“Basically she said that the spelling she uses comes from a foreign language page- possibly one in Spanish- that she finds reliable for the 'glyphs.” Did Seawright give you an address if it is a web page or name of the book? I think I know which one she is referring to could it be this one?

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=es&u=http://www.egiptologia.com/religion/diccionarios/diccionario/m/m.htm

Pictures of this netjer are hard to find especially with hieroglyphs. The book I am getting has pictures of him hopefully they will have his name. If so I will scan the picture and send it to you. Wish UPS would hurry up already paid extra for five day shipping should of known better holidays always slows mail delivery down.

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What IS an Aegis, Anyway?
(Anonymous)
2006-01-18 08:45 pm UTC (link)
One of the symbols, or emblems, of Bastet is the _aegis_, often described as 'the shield of Bastet". But is it really a shield, or, owing to AE artistic conventions, is it something else that's being depicted?

http://www.thewalters.org/html/collec_object_detail.asp?ID=36&object_ID=57.540

This picture on the Walters Museum website doesn't show the back of the piece, but the back is shown in Capel & Markoe's show catalog _Mistress of Heaven, Mistress of the House_. It's a menat, attached by a hinge to the main piece, and shows a standing lioness goddess nursing the child Horus (Heru).

"The end of the New Kingdom witnessed the introduction of a cultic ornament, known as an aegis, consisting of an _usekh_, a broad beaded collar, surmounted by the head of a deity. Depicted often as an amulet, several large examples in bronze have survived that probably served as votive offerings or attachments to large scale divine statuary. As on the present example, the aegis is often combined with a secondary element: a _menat_ counterpoise. Like the aegis, the menat served a protective and regenerative function, both ornaments assured their possessor of the blessings of rebirth and eternal life in the hereafter."

quoted from : Capel, Anne E. and Glenn E. Markoe, editors, _Mistress of the House Mistress of Heaven Women in Ancient Egypt_, Hudson Hills Press, New York,in association with Cincinnati Art Museum, c. 1996, ISBN 1- 55595- 129-5 (alk paper), p. 136

An article about the restoration of an Isis (Aset) aegis from the
"Bulletin of the Museum of Fine Arts", Boston, can be found here (I think this article mentions a menat for the back of the aegis, but now I don't remember) :

D. Dunham "An Egyptian Bronze Aegis" BMFA 29, No. 176 (December 1931), pp. 104-109


http://www.gizapyramids.org/pdf20library/bmfa_pdfs/bmfa29_1931_104to109.pdf

A beautiful faience example from the Metropolitan Museum can be seen here:

http://www.metmuseum.org/toah/hd/egam/ho_10.130.2055.htm

HTH

kat

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Re: What IS an Aegis, Anyway?
[info]fyrekat
2006-01-20 09:25 pm UTC (link)
Thank you, kat- those images are absolutely breathtaking. I appreciate the quotes, and I'm always happy to get more. I've done some editing on the original post, and added a link to your information.

Another interesting fact about the "aegis" is that there seem to be relatively few ntjrw Who are traditionally depicted in the symbol when it is used as a personal amulet- Andrews lists Bast, Tfnt, Hwt-Hrw, Mwt, Amn-Ra, and Bs as known examples. I have also seen Shw depicted as a lion along with His mate, Tfnt, however, in an aegis which had two heads surmounting the collar.

Also, this symbol first came into use as a personal amulet in the New Kingdom- and was most popular during the Third Intermediary Period- but its original use dates prior to that (my source doesn't give an exact date, unfortunately) where it was placed at the prow and stern of the sacred barques of every temple god. In these cases, they would depict the head of whichever god or goddess owned the boat.

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Bastet's Consort
(Anonymous)
2006-02-25 05:11 pm UTC (link)
"Bast is a daughter of Ra, a wife of Pth, and mother to the warrior Mai-Hs."

Em Hotep, Banu!

Bastet's consort is Atum. He had a temple at Bubastis, as well as there being a temple to Maahes in Bubastis. In the very late periods, where Bastet was synchretized/identified with Sehmet, Bastet often assumed Sekhmet's consort Ptah, as well as Sekhmet's son Nefertem.

Besides Mahes, Bastet was also identified as mother of Hor-Hekenu, a blending of Horus and Nefertem.

Details can be found in Habachi's 1957 publication of his excavation report, titled simply _Tell Basta_.

One neat thing in Habachi - the 'Ennead' of Bubastis was exclusively Lioness Goddesses! And each of these goddesses had a shrine within Bastet's main temple. :)

HTH

kat

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[info]senuneheti
2006-06-26 05:57 am UTC (link)
Banu, just added you, hon. Thanks for the loverly treatment of Mom. :)

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[info]fyrekat
2006-07-08 10:02 pm UTC (link)
The tribute pages seem to be an ongoing educational experience for me- as I get more and more feedback, and meet more and more people dedicated to the gods.^_^ I'm glad that you liked it, and I've added you back.^_^

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bast
(Anonymous)
2007-01-12 02:11 am UTC (link)
hi! just wondering what you think. i have only recently been digging into wicca, solitary. i have always had a special admiration? of Bast. recently, i was meditating, and asked(nonverbal) for the guidance of my Goddess. i was few minuites into this when Bast's face popped into my mind. there were no words exchanged. i just kept seeing Her, She kinda had a knowing...i don't know...almost a smirk. i'm not sure if i was really seeing Her or just seeing what i wanted to. She has been on my mind ever since i started to look deeper into wicca. i found a temple of kemeticism and got very excited, still waiting to hear from them reguarding classes. what do you think? i'm asking you sense you know Her.

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Re: bast
[info]fyrekat
2007-01-18 06:02 am UTC (link)
First off, I am very sorry to have taken so long to get back to you- these days I'm not getting to my email every week, so I can be a little hard to catch.^_^'

But what you're describing does sound like Bast to me- She's not exactly a chatty goddess. She'll speak when She has a mind to do so, but I have been frustrated on more than one occasion when I tried to get Her to give me a clear and concise verbal answer to a question. That was before I really learned how to "speak" with Her, however- She gives plenty of feedback, when it's appropriate, but She speaks with emotions and feelings, and just happening to pop up and give a meaningful glance or prompt at the proper moment... as you noticed with Her look.

A Kemetic temple would be a good place to learn more about Her- might I ask which one you're considering? There are a few out there- but whichever one you pick, be sure to check their sources. Some of the trouble spots you'll encounter along the road are the use of outdated sources (such as E. A. Wallis Budge, or anything from the 1800's- first half of the 1900's), or folks who rely on information which is exclusively UPG (unverified personal gnosis- means they just "feel" that their information is right) or past life memories (all memories become blurred or rearranged over time, so even assuming these memories are real I wouldn't trust them exclusively)- and then pass them along as though they were established fact. Most New Age/NeoPagan authors also, unfortunately, do not have a reputation for sound research methods or dependable source material. As you work deeper into the ancient Egyptian culture, you will find that many aspects of its worldview and concepts of divinity are opposite from what we find in most Western religions- and modern Wicca. So at least until you have a firm enough grounding in the culture to sift out what is likely to be inaccurate (or even dangerously misinformed), take whatever you read about ancient Egypt with a grain of salt if you're not hearing it from an actual, qualified Egyptologist. Whenever possible, verify information against both a reliable academic source and your interaction with the gods before placing too much at stake on it- academic theories aren't foolproof or absolute, but they provide a valuable guide on the path and the use of them to learn about the gods' culture is one very important way to honor Them and enrich your interaction with Them all at the same time. It helped me to learn a great deal about how They perceive us and our place in this world- and it will give you some good hints on the methods and symbols They will use to communicate with you, as well! ^_^ Good luck!

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Re: bast
(Anonymous)
2007-01-19 01:08 am UTC (link)
hi! glad to hear from you. the temple i was looking into is the house of netjer. i believe their based off an egyptologist, i can't remember for sure though. i have yet to hear back from them and site doesn't have a whole lot to keep going back for. i read most of it the first day i found it. i go back every so often. it wasn't long after i wrote the first message that i was again meditating and She "dropped by". this time it was mostly Her eyes i saw, they looked like lion or tiger eyes... well anyhow i did get just a short message. "you will repay my gift." though She wouldn't answer any questions about what gift or how to pay it back. it was a very short visit. i just remember feeling kinda lonely when She was gone. i haven't seen or heard from Her since. i did actually feel compelled to try and dry a pic of Her. i'm not exactly artistic but i found a good pic of her that i traced the outline from and filled in from there on my own. for me, it turned out remarkably well. for an outsider, well, let's just say you can tell it's a cat. i didn't color it in or anything. because when i've seen her i don't see color, just a kinda blue-ish outline. well, i'll let you get back to whatever you're up to. see ya!

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[info]weesieweasel
2008-06-23 09:19 am UTC (link)
It's very interesting that you should try to force Bast into the role of a lunar goddess. Many pagan paths, especially wicca try to do this. If you read "circle of Isis" by Ellen Cannon Reed she tells of the time when Bast explained that another goddess "is silver" whilst Bast "was gold". She is a solar deity and tends to get peeved when associated with the sun.

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[info]fyrekat
2008-09-14 12:36 am UTC (link)
Yes, I'm not sure if I mentioned it clearly enough in the entry, but I was just starting out as a Wiccan when I made that mistake. Wicca, like many religions, has its own traditional roles and guidelines for deity association- which I've found are frequently opposite of corresponding concepts found in ancient Egypt. This has led to my conclusion that although many Wiccans view their Lord and Lady as the sum of all the traditional pantheons, these two deities are actually their own, distinct entities and do not reflect the supposed commonalities of other divinities. In keeping with a traditional Egyptian polyvalent logical frame of mind, lol, I've come to view this "multifaceted" nature as being a quality of a uniquely Wiccan deity, while other deities remain distinct and inviolate.

That's an interesting quote from Reed, thank you for sharing it! Bast is definitely a solar goddess, and my relationship with Her improved dramatically when I finally realized that fact.^_^

(btw, sorry for the long response time- my email account was malfunctioning for months!)

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